Indy Man Beer Con 2014 – Part 3, The Rights & The Wrongs (?)

Note to the reader – parts of this were originally written on Sunday 19th October 2014.  Then after a quick review half my ranting went to some unrecoverable pit of erased writing , therefore if this piece seems unbalanced it is because the rest is now being written two weeks later…now…tonight.


So, Part 3 of my reviews of the Independent Manchester Beer Convention 2014

Part 1 – About the Food can be found here.

Part 2 – About the Talks can be found here.

Yeah, sorry, I lied in Part 2 – I started writing about the beers and realised, hey, its late on a Sunday evening and this post will be huge (if not massively detailed), so instead I’m going to cut loose with rants about IMBC14 because it is a lot easier.

Right off the bat I will state that this now completely undermines my original post about IMBC14

That was merely supposed to be a light-hearted piss take of all sides following some rather odd fall-out from this year’s festival that would sate my need to rant.  This obviously has not worked – but as that was my most popular blog post to date I’m not entirely frustrated.

Anyway, I love my cask beer.  I don’t have any problem with keg at all other than its tendency to be too cold, too cold with detriment to the beer.

What IMBC seemed to do wrong this year was to have the kegs all nicely written out on chalkboards/whiteboards – the cask beers – meh, just some marker pen on a sheet of paper sellotaped to any available pole.

Readable and to the point, but with the cask also segregated to the ends of each bar from which the beers were sold you could get the impression that any beer in casks was inferior, even if it was provided by a brewer who also had keg beers and was also, more than likely, in attendance.

It’s not for me to say how the brewers felt, but with regards inclusivity it does smack of double standards, as did the pricing.

Now cask is harder to keep.  And whereas the part full kegs wing their merry ways to Beagle or Common or Port Street Beer House, the cask will more likely be binned.

Hence, come the last hour of the Sunday the cask (which was already being sold at £1 a third, regardless of strength; yep £3 for a pint of 11% Fattest Stout by Mad Hatter Brewing) was given away for free, both to anyone with a glass, and to take away with anyone who got a growler carry-out.

Pricing has led to the festival being called *elitist.

£11 last year increased to £13 this year.

Alcohol, keg of course, priced usually by strength would cost up to £3.50 a third.

People will pay it.

I will pay it to drink beers I doubt I’ll get a second chance to drink.

So indeed you then get the inverse reaction to pricing – if the beer is cheap then it must also be inferior.

But this is just a minor quibble, my other slightly negative point will probably have most of you scratching your heads – it is basically:

Can you have too much of a good thing?

As noted above; IMBC doesn’t just do beer, they don’t just have the brewers their to sell and talk about their beer, they don’t just have bottle tastings and seminars that you pay a (in the scheme of things) stupidly cheap amount of tokens to go and try, they don’t just have talks about various and the varied aspects of the brewing process, what they also do are beer pop-ups.

Special bottles are given away to the first come first served of those who run over to a bell being rung.  Who knows where, who knows when.  Sometimes the brewers are there to continue to talk about this special beer they’ve brought.

What you are left with is people following around a bell, from room to room, waiting, not necessarily because its free beer on offer, but exclusive beer.

What I think these do; what all these additional things that happen at IMBC other than the beer do, is make you unable to relax, enjoy a beer, listen to a conversation.  It is almost like beer hysteria can take over some people.  A fear they may miss out on every little facet of the festival.

It’s also bloody disrupting having a bell rung in your vicinity, some might think there’s a fire, and given the rush towards the bell it can seem like a mild panic has set in.

Again, it isn’t necessarily a bad thing there is so much going on, it just sometimes seem a little too frantic.

Plus they have bean bags – bean bags are not conducive to sitting on, or more importantly getting up from, with beer in hand, if worse for wear – they encourage booze lounging and beer spilling, they must not be tolerated.

Beer People Are Good People

That probably is a neon sign in some bar somewhere and if it isn’t, it probably will be and when I see it, I’ll probably get a bit of sick in my mouth.


Because the above statement is a feeling, it isn’t a marketing gimmick.

I’m 3 for 3 with Indy Man festivals.

My first two IMBC’s were me and my mates having a few drinks on the Friday evening session, going to a few talks, once having some stupidly hot chili sauces, but it was never really about the beer, the beer was secondary, in so much as we only really talked about what was good and what wasn’t, but story behind the beers were never discussed.

This year I managed to still do the Friday evening social, but expanded it, not only by volunteering, but also by finally meeting (after a few drinks, I never go into these things sober) some people I’ve only ever exchanged written words with.

I got to meet a few more too.

It is just an extra layer to IMBC and the story of beer from hops to glass.

Points of further reference can be found here, at Connor’s Blog (Beer Battered) and here, at Crema’s Beer Odyssey Blog and, just published yesterday while this post was on hiatus; this Total Ales blog by Mr. Matthew Curtis

Of course the above posts by superior bloggers already cover a lot of the ground I have, but put it together in a far more concise write up of Indy Man 2014 than I’m doing, over what will be 4 parts.

Talking of which – Part 4 will (promise) be about the all important beer.

Along with the Independent Salford Beer Festival, you’re pretty much spoiled for choice for beer festivals in October.

Let thee thirst no more and not go on a pub crawl afterwards.


*Note: The elitist tag is part of a larger debate that I’ll admit I was going to tackle in this, but it is too big to get into on one post and covers far to many facets of drinking strata.  Ergo, I’m copping out for now

Independent Salford Beer Festival 2014 – A Review

This is a review for the first (of many) Independent Salford Beer Festival of 2014.

Or ISBF – obviously.

Now when you have Manchester’s premier beer blogger*, Beers Manchester (Jim), (twitter: @BeersManchester) setting up a festival, describing the setup and lay out is a bit redundant, I can just send you to the site…

Salford Beer Festival

Held at Saint Sebastian’s Community Centre in Salford, to raise money for the centre, this was the first beer festival to be held in Salford since 1978.**

It took place over the 24th and 25th of October 2014 at a cost (online) of £3.50 day session and £4.50 for the evening slots.

Beer prices averaged (accordingly by ABV) about £1 a third to £3.40 for the full on +7%ers.

That’s the cold hard figures out of the way, now lets look at the little things.

The website puts a long of other websites to shame for ease of use and informativeness and this carried forward into the festival.

Call me biased because I actually volunteered for the whole thing, I don’t mind, if you went to it you know you had a good time.  A very good time.

It was a proper community festival.

But also more than that, you can tell Jim knows what he likes from all the beer festivals he must have attended throughout the years, it showed.  Just look at the glasses and programmes.

Nothing was being done by halves.  Pint glasses marked in 1/3rds and 1/2 and these wonderful beasts:

A 2/3rds glass (marked in thirds and halves too) – called; amongst other things by the punters: tulip, stemmed, wine, lovely, nice, posh, ladies, girlie, tasting and not-the-pint-one.

The bar itself was resplendent with its 36 beers and 4 ciders/perries.


The beers (much better viewing on the actual website) were as follows:

Allgates (Wigan) – Half-Devil – Kazbek Hop Pale Ale (3.33%)
Atom (Hull) – Yorkshire Harvest – Green Hop Wheat Beer (4.2%)
Bad Seed (Malton) – Yorkshire (Fresh) Hops – Brown Ale (3.8%)
BlackJack (Manchester) – King of Clubs (Port) – Strong Stout (7.4%)
Blackedge Brew Co. (Bolton) – Brewers Gold – Golden Ale (3.9%)
Brass Castle Brewery (Malton) – Hazelnut Mild – Mild (4.2%)
Brewsmith Beer (Ramsbottom) – Oatmeal Stout – Stout (5.2%)
Bridestones Brewing (Hebden Bridge) – American Pale – Pale Ale (5%)
Brightside Brew Co. (Bury) – Amarillo – Single Hop IPA (5%)
Cheshire Brewhouse (Congleton) – Howling House – Session Black IPA (5%)
Cwrw Ial (Llanarmon yn Ial) – Limestone Cowboy – US-Hopped Copper Ale (5%)
Deeply Vale Brewery (Bury) – Doigys Deeply Dark – Black IPA (4.5%)
First Chop Brew Arm (Salford) – TOC – Pale Ale (4.2%)
First Chop Brewing Arm / Shindigger Brew Co. (Salford) – PIP – Citra and Sorachi Ace Saison (6.3%)
Five-Oh Brew Co. (Bury) – Sorachi Ace Stout – Stout (6.5%)
Five Towns Brewery (Wakefield) – Raven King – Coffee Porter (5.5%) – said 6% on the clip.
Five Towns Brewery (Wakefield) – Grounds for Divorce – Belgian-Style Tripel (7.8%)
Hand Drawn Monkey Brewing Co. (Huddersfield) – Schwarzwalder Kirschtorte – Cherry & Forest Fruit Brown Ale (3.6%)
Hornbeam Brewery (Manchester) – Lemon Blossom – Pale Ale (3.7%)
Indy Man Brew House (Manchester) – Omniporter – Porter (5%)
Liverpool Craft Beer Co. (Liverpool) – Toast – Amber Ale (4.2%)
Marble Brewery (Manchester) – Pint – Pale Session Ale (3.9%)
North Riding Brew Pub (Scarborough) – Fat Lads Mild – Mild (4.5%)
Offbeat Brewery (Crewe) – Way Out Wheat – Wheat Beer (4.5%)
Outstanding Brewing (Bury) – Red – Red Ale (4.4%)
Privateer Beers (Stockport) – Patriot – Pale Ale (3.9%)
Quantum Brewing Co. (Stockport) – Small Beer – Pale Ale (2.6%)
Revolutions Brew Co. (Castleford) – October – Green Hop Pale Ale (4.5%)
Ringway Brewery (Stockport) – Admiral Pale – Pale Ale (3.5%)
Runaway Brewery (Manchester) – American Brown – Brown Ale (5.7%)
Sevenbro7hers Brewery (Salford) – IPA – IPA (4.5%)
Shindigger Brewing Co. (Manchester) – Hoppy Lager – Lager (Cask Conditioned) (5.5%)
Squawk Brewing Co. (Manchester) – Coffee Stout – Stout (6%)
Tickety Brew (Stockport) – Coffee & Star Anise Porter – Porter (5.1%)
Two Roses Brewery (Barnsley) – Chinook – Single Hop Pale Ale (4%)
Wilson Potter Brewery (Rochdale) – Second Skin(ful) – Pale Ale (4%)

What I have put in italics are firsts (that I know of) – first time available anywhere, first time available on cask and in the big case of the Five-Oh Sorachi Ace Stout, the first and ONLY time he/they will produce a cask beer.

Think about that – a first time festival also gets all these firsts on the beers front – just think about that.

What makes it even more of a community was the amount of brewers that did turn up for the festival:

Allgates, BlackJack, Brewsmith, First Chop Brewing Arm, the boys from Shindigger, Five Towns, Ringway, The Runaway, Seven Bro7hers (well, 3 of them) and TicketyBrew on a whistle-stop tour.

I had great pleasure when someone order a specific drink, of pointing out the brewer to them; they all seemed more than pleased to talk to anyone who wanted a chat – they themselves were quite happy and merry with all the beers too (I’m looking at you BlackJack, Runaway & Shindigger).

But the above and beyond the call of duty goes to Cwrw Ial Brewery and Doug the Head Brewer.

Not only did he turn up with some of his bottles and host an impromptu Meet The Brewer/Tasting (attended by a few of the other brewers) but he then put in a shift behind the bar – on top of having driven from and then driving back to Wales.  Not bad for a Kiwi.

The Friday afternoon was a quiet, peaceful and relaxed affair – a few of the bumps got sorted out, the nerves were quelled that the scanner apps on phones worked, all in anticipation of the Friday evening session, a sell-out.

What appeared to be most of Bolton Market stall holders (lead by Great Ale and Nkono) and seemingly all the punters that go there descended on the festival, along with lots of other locals and the not-so-local; someone can down from Scotland, someone can up from Birmingham and one other chap came via Dubai.

The call had been well and truly heard.

Saturday day and evening sessions also sold out.

Saturday evening also saw local band Duke and the Darlings do a few short sets of acoustic numbers, complemented the drinking and the mood of the festival very well.

The food too was top-notch.

Carrs pasties, hot-pot pies, vegetable stew, mince stew, peas, all served with gigantic slabs of bread – everything the committed festival goer (and worker) needs.

It is hard to pick the best beer – all were good, some were absolutely stellar, but if push I would take it down to two:

Of the pales you had Allgates Half-Devil – a wonderfully light and refreshing brew, drinks like a pale ale but I was able to sell quite a few to punters who wanted some “like a lager”.

All the dark beers were excellent (myself & Jim share similar tastes that way) but the best one and my favourite of the festival does go to the Raven King from Five Towns.  A wonderful and rich coffee porter, dangerously drinkable, plus the brewer told me the secret to the brew (no not love, a perfectly normal and edible one) – hmmm, it makes you think.

Most customers and many of the volunteers, either by design or misfortune, almost reduced Jim to tears a few times with the compliments he was being showered with.

The tears were in full effect when he was surprised with a reward for all his hard work – you will never see a beer blogger of such esteem run AWAY from a bar quite a quickly as Jim managed at that moment.

Everyone leaving said they had a great time, that it should happen again next year; some wanted it twice a year.

It will happen again next year.

More than likely it may well be a permanent fixture to the beer calendar of Manchester.

So it only remains for me to thank the brewers, the punters, the band, the volunteers, the staff at St. Sebastian’s, Gerry and of course Jim.

See you in 2015.

With that I’m off to continue writing the other parts of my review of Indy Man Beer Con 2014, an equally as good but very different festival – to state the obvious.

*with apologise to all others.

**Unless you over look the Salford Red Devils Beer Festival of 2013 – which, much like the rugby league team, most people did.

A Small Man Walks Into A Pub

Based on an instant reaction to this post by Sophie Atherton

This piece is not intended as an antagonistic response, merely me putting over another (not, THE other) side, this time of a man getting served at a bar.

I don’t know if anything can be read into Sophie’s (too familiar? Sorry) story, that this incident was this time caused by a female bartender (nah, doesn’t work), it would be interesting to note the age of said employee.

But then again, from my point of view neither the age nor the gender of the bar staff really tallies with what kind of service you get.

I don’t frequent clubs at all anymore, having loathed anytime spent in them in my youth,  but in each case any chap behind the bar would always serve the prettiest girls first before attending to either the men or the women he didn’t deem to be as attractive.  Female staff were always much more productive.

Pubs on the other hand, I find, can be very varied.

I can understand staff serving “regulars” before me, I don’t like it but it is unwritten pub etiquette, whether it is something anyone waiting an inordinate amount of time should tolerate is another matter.

It is worse for me that in some cases as I would deem myself a semi-regular – the staff in the pubs I go in probably don’t know my by name but they should certainly know me by sight.

In pubs that is always the loathsome aspect of waiting to get served sometimes, not only “beaten” by the regulars who appear like Mr. Benn’s shopkeeper at the side of the bar, but also when you’re at a bar and the staff start talking over you to a mate of theirs three persons behind you.

In either case it has generally been bloke bar staff that do this.

And with Christmas coming up it will only get more ridiculous.

I’m pretty sure I read blog pieces about “a bar staff’s prerogative” last Xmas – it is what happens when you give an individual just a little bit of power over another.

Having spent the weekend serving at the 1st Independent Salford Beer Festival (review to follow), I’d like to think I was all equal opportunity; indeed the epitome of a 1st come, 1st served attitude, it isn’t difficult in the slightest.

You’d even think that regulars wouldn’t mind waiting – a stranger at the bar, go ahead, it brings in possible repeat business if they are served quickly and will keep the coffers of the pub topped up for just that little bit longer.

I don’t doubt that women may find it more difficult to get served before men, though I’ve been served, after quite a long while of waiting, by some gruff old bloke seemingly reluctant for my custom and by women (of various ages) more intent on gossiping than bringing in cash for the business they work for.

I can only expand on Mrs. Atherton’s (too formal? Sorry) final sentence; pubs are indeed still closing at a rate, but regardless, given any other option, people will go elsewhere if they have to wait because of ignorant, poorly trained bar staff – of any gender.

Indy Man Beer Con 2014 – Part 2, The Talks

Hello and welcome to the link-heavy second part of the Independent Manchester Beer Convention 2014; where I will discuss what really does set Indy Man Beer Con apart from most other beer festivals.

Obviously with most regular beer festivals, the space they are held in is a big factor in what can and can’t be included at the event.  In a big open hall or tent you can only really expect beer and food – there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I am more than happy with that.

But when there is space abundant then organisers really should think outside the box.

Beer festivals are there to promote the beer and the brewers.  People who like beer and who even brew their own go to these things regularly, so I would always expect actual professional brewers to make the attempt to attend a few, this can only ever pay dividends to their product.

In January the Manchester Beer Festival 2014 (Velodrome) did try this, holding talks with brewers at random times (nothing massively organised) but it was a start.  To hear the Hawkshead brewer talking about hops was fantastic, to smell just a few of the different kinds gives a whole new appreciation of the brewing process, especially when not held in the confines of a brewery.

By being held at Victoria Baths the organisers of IMBC have so much space to put on different events that they (and we the punters) are spoiled for choice.

At IMBC13 there was a talk about Sour Beers by Lovibonds Brewery about sour beers, which gave me an appreciation for this new and now possibly over saturated style of beers.

This year they even opened the cellar for some pop-up talks, surprise bottle tastings and sour beers tasting hosted by Beer Moth

I didn’t get to them.  Sadly I also missed a talk about gypsy/cuckoo brewers, which also sounded very interesting.

However what I did get to were talks about home brewing and yeast.

The Number of the Yeast

This Iron Maiden fan was always going to go along to something like this.  Having taking the day off out of my lab to go to the both Friday sessions, I was treated to a talk by Troels Prahl of White Labs (in association with Simply Hops)

We were given two versions of a Helles beer to try (I think, I did leave for a pee just after the start); Camden Hells and Beavertown Hell (ironic given just a few weeks earlier all Helles had broken loose about the naming of said style of beer (deftly summarised here by Matthew Curtis on his Total Ales Blog).

What followed was then a home brewers, microbiologists and scientists wet dream – drinking beers while getting the geek on.

If only my job featured ppm’s, flocculation, attenuation, etc. and was this entertaining I’d not be such a miserable git.  I’m in the wrong game.

And it was free.

Also free and very lively, again with beer tastings was:

Get You Mash On!

Compared by Manchester’s own Connor, he of Beer Battered blogging fame, the panel also featured;

Emma and Chris of Crema Brewery, Andy of Elusive Brewing and Al, soon to be of Cloudwater Brew Co fame.

Now I’m going to cop-out and post a link to the Crema Blog reviewing the evening.

Crema Blog: Home Brewing Panel Review

Audience participation at this event was a must.  People sat and listened to each other, banded about ideas, completely wrote-off the strict rules that are used to judge beers at competitions.

You got the feeling a very small, slightly inebriated revolution was starting in the room.  You get that feeling in general when you attend IMBC.  This is a place free from “big name” corporate-mega-international brewers.  This is grass-roots at its ultimate.  Enthusiasts getting together and making notes, sharing thoughts.

Beer School is in.

If slagging-off the big brewers and the traditional trains of brewing thought is elitism then you can stamp a big E on me.

Apart from being a very entertaining hour, I say with no reservations at all, that the 3 beers we had at this talk were up there with the best for sale in the rooms below us.

If people are producing beer like this in their own homes with kit knocked together from computer fans and old kettles then the future of British brewing is very bright.

This concludes Part 2, I envisaged a further 2 parts, the beer reviews are up next…

Indy Man Beer Con 2014 – Part 1, The Food

A quick post about the food at Indy Man Beer Con 2014 which will contain no pictures.

If you look through my blogs, most are of beer festival reviews and food is as much a key player as the beer.  Food needs to be there to soak up the beer to enable our less inebriated selves falling out onto the streets and obviously running amuck as that is what all people who drink alcohol do.

Other times it can complement the food.

Following the fall-out from IMBC14 as to whether the festival is elitist or not perhaps a tell-tale sign can be the type of food it provides.

At Indy Man they do a Beer-Matched Meal.  I didn’t go to it.  It was curated by The Hungry Gecko. I’m sure it was very good.

What they do do, food-wise, at Indy Man, is have a lot of food stalls and by this they mean “Street Food”.

So, as the food is provided by small businesses, as opposed to old women looking like your dinner ladies from school (pick you cliché), this may well be seen as elitist.

I suppose that when the average price of some scran is £5 (food costs seem to vary between £3-£8, not including the nibbles that could be bought), this too suggests elitism.

Because it seems to be that elitism in describing Indy Man comes down solely to the costs of things.

So the food on offer at Indy Man was: Pies, Pizza, Burgers, Hot Dogs, Mexican and Curry.

Of course when said like that, it sounds like every other standard take-away fodder, but the food served here is far, far superior.

All these bods can be found at various street food markets, regular markets, brew taps and general gatherings:

Great North Pie Co.

Great North Pie Co Facebook and @GreatNorthPieCo

These guys have been at all 3 Indy Man festivals – this years offerings were Cheese & Onion and Minced Steak (with mashed potatoes and mushy peas).

They use the word artisan, but I can overlook that as they do make good pies, but I miss the channa masala (or whatever they were from IMBC12)

Honest Crust Pizza

Honest Crust Pizza and @Honest_Crust

Honest crust are usually visited by me at the end of every month at the BlackJack Brew Tap, fresh made pizzas with a variety of toppings, cooked in a wood-fired oven in around 2 minutes.  I had one with nettles on once (elitist garnish), this time I just had one with anchovies.  Great yet not overly stodgy, because its a proper pizza.


Almost Famous Burgers

Almost Famous Burgers

To me, Almost Famous are the Brewdog of local food vendors.  Arrogant, childish, over-rated, followed by a slavish band of acolytes.  But the product they sell, they do very, very well and they do lead from the front.

The service was bob on at Indy Man; attentive, smiling, fairly sober staff (the antithesis of my trips to their NQ branch, pre-fire).  The double burgers sold with various toppings (pulled pork, etc.  Cheerios on one) were the glorious tasting cardiac attacks in a bun.  I can never fault their food.


Diamond Dogs

Diamond Dogs and @Diamondd0gs

Good, thick and long hot dogs with a variety of topping (yep, pulled pork, etc.).  Suprisingly light, but filling.


Margo & Rita

Margo and Rita and @MargoAndRitas

A healthier option to all the above red meats, along with Nachos, you could also get Fish Tacos (the soft kind of taco) or Cactus for veggies, with a refreshing salad.  Another light but hole-filling winner.


Chaat Cart

Chaat Cart and @ChaatCart

The curry side of things (all veg) and my favourite stall of the weekend.  Everything sated the appetite while also feeling very healthy in the process.  Masala Dosa was good, but the Channa Chaat was to die for.


Special mention to Karkli for Indian snacks (and some nice free nibbles for us bar staff) and to Epicerie Ludo (Epicerie Ludo and @EpicerieLudo) who provided cheese, breads and chutneys in quite plentiful abundance.

So this concludes the food portion of the total review of Indy Man 2014, stay tuned for all the other parts…

…obviously, because who else is going to write them for this blog?

Smoking – A Personal Freedom in an Open Public Space

Yesterday, health nutters realised their goal of taking away the personal freedom of a group that they have been hounding and vilifying for a few decades now.

The proposition is to ban smoking in London’s public parks and Trafalgar Square, presumably once they’ve driven there to put up signs to tell people to enjoy the fresh, cigarette-smoke free air.

Following the health utopia that is New York City, what applies to London will eventually be rolled out* across the UK by all too willing nannying councils.

Of course the enforcement of this alone boggles the mind; imagine being stalked by someone ready to pounce and issue a fine should the smoke coming out of your mouth not be from an e-cig (a big assumption these will be exempt), or because the weather is a little nippy, or that you’ve just had some hot Vimto.

Fortunately a common sense reaction, gratifyingly among many non-smokers (to clarify that I too, do not smoke); is playing out after countless health diktats about smoking, alcohol, exercise and diet, that this is indeed state overreach.

It is a case of chickens coming home to roost.  The cries following the smoking ban of 2007 that this would be only a very thick end of an even thicker wedge are indeed playing out to every strata of society and affecting every ‘undesirable’, non-healthy vice that most regular people enjoy from time to time.

The typical “someone think of the children” shrill mantra is the rod for every proposed healthy endeavor.

If preventing future generations of children smoking is the key aim then this should be writ large…

If an act the state are trying to demonise is not in itself illegal, then it is not for the state to say what is good and what is bad to do in public.

It in plainly obvious for all reasonably minded people to see that it is up to the parents of said young minds, to educate their offspring the said activity is not good for them.

It does appear the health industry may have over-played its hand somewhat and it is a good thing that the harder and more frequent they push for their recommendations, the more likely they will meet an ever-increasing resistance, again gratifyingly from those not directly effected as they too realise that it is only a matter of time till they come for something they enjoy.

With that, I’m off to the pub.


* With the advent of both Downing Street and apparent libertarian conservative London Mayor (for the time being) Boris Johnson coming out “against” these plans, it does make you wonder if this is merely to show the state as less authoritarian than it actually is.

Things We Have Learnt From Indy Man Beer Con 2014

So what appears to be some kind of post-Indy Man Fallout is currently doing the rounds on beer blogs and twitterspheres alike.

Based on this blog at ohgoodale and possibly less so on Tandleman’s Beer Blog.

This lead to a rebuttal, of sorts from The Beer Cast

But regardless of your views, we hold these things to be self evident:




Number 1






Number 2



and Number 3



Review(s) of Indy Man to follow…